(update 11-Feb-2010) For 2010 it has been decided to "merge" F-TR and F-Farquharson, using the more lenient of the two rules, to be offered as "F/F" (i.e. .223 or .308, any bullet weight, and any means of front support as per F/Open)
In our present rulebook we have two very similar versions of F-Class that are fired with .223/.308 rifles. There are only two differences between F/Farky and F-TR, and while they are so minor that it is not really meaningful to offer both classes, it has not yet been possuble to fully merge the definitions of F/F and F/TR at the international level (ICFRA rules and competitions). I would like to see us resolve this issue for Canadian F-Class shooting, and offer only one ".223/.308" kind of F-Class shooting for next year.
Our F/Farquharson class permits any form of front rest to be used, including benchrest-style pedestal front rests, and also limits bullet weights to the same limits as TR rifles (which is, presently, 155 max for .308, and no bullet weight limit for .223). The official ICFRA F/Restricted class, which has since renamed to "F-TR", only permits bipods to be used as a front rest, and allows bullets of any weight to be used, for both .308 and .223. Interestingly, the vast majority of the F/Restricted shooters at the 2009 F Class World Championships in Bisley used .308/155.
If we strictly adopt the ICFRA F-TR version as our one and only kind of .223/.308 F-Class shooting, there will be a number of Canadian shooters who will have to either change to using a bipod or to no longer fire ".223/.308 F-Class" at our Canadian Championships. It is the opinion of most Canadian shooters that a pedestal front rest does not provide any significant competitive advantage over a bipod, especially since in modern F-Class parlance a "bipod" can be a pretty sophisticated piece of gear. And this is reflected in our F-Farky rules of many years standing, in which we permit any form of front rest to be used.
If we stick with our F/Farky version, we might lose potential entries from competitors who wish to shoot with equipment legal for use at the FCWC 2013 matches - these could be visiting American or British F-TR teams, or it could be our own Canadian F-TR team, should any of them wish to explore the use of bullets heavier than 155 grains for their F-TR rifles.
The best proposal I have heard yet, is that we basically merge the two classes, using the least restrictive definitions of each. Perhaps we would want to call the result "F-Farky", or perhaps we would call it "F-TR(Canadian)", but the essentials would be that any form of front rest would be permitted, and that any.223 or .308 bullet weight would be permitted. In this class, any existing F-TR or F-Farquharson rifle would be legal. If there is something bad to be said about this proposal, it would be that we are departing from the standard ICFRA practice, which might bring into question either our dedication to eventually adopting ICFRA rules for our own shooting, or perhaps whether our trial of ICFRA rules is in fact a meaningful trial of ICFRA rules after all, since we keep every-so-slightly tweaking ICFRA rules slightly to better suit our domestic desires.
Tuesday, November 3, 2009
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
Offer Squadded Practice Adding Coaching to Warmup Matches?
(edited 8-Dec-2009) - In response to feedback received, it seems that the existing Warmup matches should best be left alone as individual matches. In order to support individual and team training opportunities, I propose that DCRA sell timeslots on particular targets, which can be bought ahead of time and also at the matches. I am thinking that the morning's shooting (0800-1130) and the afternoon's shooting (1300-1700) would be parcelled into 30-minute blocks. Pricing hasn't been finalized yet, but I am thinking that $20 per block might fit into the scheme of things (it would cover the DCRA's staff costs, and it would be cheaper that the warmup matches which have additional costs and benefits due to prizes being offered).
I anticipate that the available ranges for squadded practice would be: Fri AM - 300m (and perhaps 900m too); Fri. PM, 900m; Sat. AM 500y and 900m; Sat PM 900m. I would like to see a grid of available times and distances included on our entry form, which would allow people or teams to request particular timeslots ahead of time, and reduce some of the last-minute crunch associated with registration and shooting the first couple of days.
For a team to buy all seven timeslots for a morning's shooting, for two adjacent targets, would be $280, and to buy all eight timeslots on two targets for an afternoon's shooting would be $320. So for $600, on Friday a team could spend all morning at 300m on two targets of their own, and the entire afternoon on "their" two targets at 900m. The afternoon's 900m time could be particularly useful, since on most days it would likely include a couple of hours of pretty challenging winds (certainly 1300-1530 are usually 'worthy' conditions at Connaught), and also at least an hour of fairly mild wind conditions at the end (might be useful to verify that peoples' gear is performing well at 900m). It would seem to me that a couple of dedicated targets could provide a whole lot of shooting opportunity for a squad of 10 people, so for $60 per person you could build yourself a customized "training camp" day.
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(edited 3-Nov-2009) Original proposal - "Adding Coaching to Warmup Matches?"
Prior to our Grand Aggregate starting on the afternoon of First Sunday, we hold two and a half days of Warmups. The Warmups serve a number of important functions, some of them being getting newly hired butts markers and range line staff up to speed, providing elevation zeroes for shooters, allowing shooters for whom Connaught is not their home range to get a good feel for the range prior to the Grand, and also as worthwhile matches in and of themselves.
A common complaint about our fullbore shooting programme, nationally and provincially, is that we don't get nearly enough opportunities to shoot in team matches under coaching. And we seem to get even less opportunity to shoot under coached practice. Yet the most prestigious international matches that we fire, both F-Class and TR, are team shooting events, which the Brits seem genetically predispositioned to win. Of course it's not genetic, but it is almost certainly helped by the fact that the Brits do a lot of shooting under coached team conditions.
I therefore propose that some of our Warmup Matches be modified so as to permit the shooters to be coached. By this I mean that a shooter would be allowed to fire his score individually (in the usual way), but if he wished to fire under the direction of the coach, he would be permitted to do so and his score would be accepted. Some feedback already received has indicated that perhaps shooters firing the warmup matches individually might find this to be unfair, so perhaps we should offer a prizelist that recognizes both individually-fired scores as well as coached scores (and perhaps the most meaningful way would be to have the coached scores be counted as teams of four or eight shooters).
What I would like to see happen is that groups of shooters, including but definitely not limited to national teams, would set up coaches and plotters on one or more targets, and then run through a succession of shooters. Multi-target collaboration amongst the coaches would be permitted.
If we use standard ICFRA team match timings (1m15s per shot), then over the course of a three-hour morning or afternoon time block there would be time for about eight shooters to fire on each target. So if a Palma Training Squad wanted to staff up four targets, they could have those four coaches assess 32 shooters. Or if a visiting team were sized to fire the 12-shooter Commonwealth Match (e.g. the German or GBRT team), they could set up their official team on three targets and they could have every one of their shooters fire twice.
In a sense this wouldn't be a "real team event" because I am suggesting that only individual scores be counted. This is partly to allow and encourage a shooter on his own to still go ahead and shoot the match, but it's also a deliberate effort to encourage the teams to treat this as much as a training exercise than as a match in and of itself.
Two major reasons (from the shooter's point of view) for Warmups is to get elevation and windage zeroes, and to also get a refresher course in reading Connaught's winds. Participating in a team shoot, as a shooter and as a coach or plotter, ought to fully provide this important warmup function.
In another posting I am proposing to delete 1st-Fri-AM's Sierra 300m ISSF match. I propose to replace Friday AM's firing with an as-yet-unnamed match, consisting of 2ss15 @ 300m and 2ss10 @ 900m
My preliminary proposal at this point is to:
I anticipate that the available ranges for squadded practice would be: Fri AM - 300m (and perhaps 900m too); Fri. PM, 900m; Sat. AM 500y and 900m; Sat PM 900m. I would like to see a grid of available times and distances included on our entry form, which would allow people or teams to request particular timeslots ahead of time, and reduce some of the last-minute crunch associated with registration and shooting the first couple of days.
For a team to buy all seven timeslots for a morning's shooting, for two adjacent targets, would be $280, and to buy all eight timeslots on two targets for an afternoon's shooting would be $320. So for $600, on Friday a team could spend all morning at 300m on two targets of their own, and the entire afternoon on "their" two targets at 900m. The afternoon's 900m time could be particularly useful, since on most days it would likely include a couple of hours of pretty challenging winds (certainly 1300-1530 are usually 'worthy' conditions at Connaught), and also at least an hour of fairly mild wind conditions at the end (might be useful to verify that peoples' gear is performing well at 900m). It would seem to me that a couple of dedicated targets could provide a whole lot of shooting opportunity for a squad of 10 people, so for $60 per person you could build yourself a customized "training camp" day.
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(edited 3-Nov-2009) Original proposal - "Adding Coaching to Warmup Matches?"
A common complaint about our fullbore shooting programme, nationally and provincially, is that we don't get nearly enough opportunities to shoot in team matches under coaching. And we seem to get even less opportunity to shoot under coached practice. Yet the most prestigious international matches that we fire, both F-Class and TR, are team shooting events, which the Brits seem genetically predispositioned to win. Of course it's not genetic, but it is almost certainly helped by the fact that the Brits do a lot of shooting under coached team conditions.
I therefore propose that some of our Warmup Matches be modified so as to permit the shooters to be coached. By this I mean that a shooter would be allowed to fire his score individually (in the usual way), but if he wished to fire under the direction of the coach, he would be permitted to do so and his score would be accepted. Some feedback already received has indicated that perhaps shooters firing the warmup matches individually might find this to be unfair, so perhaps we should offer a prizelist that recognizes both individually-fired scores as well as coached scores (and perhaps the most meaningful way would be to have the coached scores be counted as teams of four or eight shooters).
What I would like to see happen is that groups of shooters, including but definitely not limited to national teams, would set up coaches and plotters on one or more targets, and then run through a succession of shooters. Multi-target collaboration amongst the coaches would be permitted.
If we use standard ICFRA team match timings (1m15s per shot), then over the course of a three-hour morning or afternoon time block there would be time for about eight shooters to fire on each target. So if a Palma Training Squad wanted to staff up four targets, they could have those four coaches assess 32 shooters. Or if a visiting team were sized to fire the 12-shooter Commonwealth Match (e.g. the German or GBRT team), they could set up their official team on three targets and they could have every one of their shooters fire twice.
In a sense this wouldn't be a "real team event" because I am suggesting that only individual scores be counted. This is partly to allow and encourage a shooter on his own to still go ahead and shoot the match, but it's also a deliberate effort to encourage the teams to treat this as much as a training exercise than as a match in and of itself.
Two major reasons (from the shooter's point of view) for Warmups is to get elevation and windage zeroes, and to also get a refresher course in reading Connaught's winds. Participating in a team shoot, as a shooter and as a coach or plotter, ought to fully provide this important warmup function.
In another posting I am proposing to delete 1st-Fri-AM's Sierra 300m ISSF match. I propose to replace Friday AM's firing with an as-yet-unnamed match, consisting of 2ss15 @ 300m and 2ss10 @ 900m
My preliminary proposal at this point is to:
- Maintain as an individual match the Ottawa Regiment (2ss15 @ 800m 1st-Friday evening)
- Maintain as an individual match the Army and Navy Veterans Match (2ss15 @ 900m 1st-Sat afternoon)
- Amend to be "Coaching Permitted" the as-yet-unnamed-match (Fri-AM 2ss15@300m + 2ss10@900m)
- Amend to be "Coaching Permitted" the Long Range Challenge I (Fri-PM 2ss15 @ 900m plus another 2ss15 @ 900m)
- Amend to be "Coaching Permitted" the Gooderham (Sat-AM 2ss15 @ 500y plus 2ss10 @ 900m)
- Amend to be "Coaching Permitted" the Long Range Challenge II (Fri-PM 2ss15 @ 900m plus another 2ss15 @ 900m)
- Each "Coaching Permitted" match would maintain its present structure w.r.t. declaring individual match winners. The only change here is that some shooters may have turned in their score under the influence of a coach.
- We could add concurrent team (perhaps 4-shooter?) aggs for each of these matches.
- We could also add a concurrent team agg (8 shooters? 12 shooters?) for the agg of all of these matches
ISSF-style 300m shooting at DCRA
(edited 8-Dec-2009) It looks like we have confirmed at the DCRA Executive meeting this past weekend that we will not be offering the 300m ISSF-style match in 2010.
(edited 3-Nov-2009)
As things stand, it looks to me as if the ISSF match is "broken". I think it's a good match, I love the challenge of shooting on such a demanding target, it's nice to shoot something with a common link to our SFC brethren, in fact I think it's a good idea all-around. But the "customers" are telling us that they aren't interested, and year after year they have stayed away in droves from this nice match. While 2009's attendance was probably unusually low because it was a two-day event that was used to select a Canadian team to the 300m CSFC match in India, the event's attendance hasn't been any more than about 20 shooters for the past number of years.
There are many good reasons for a shooter at the Canadian Championships to *not* shoot the ISSF match. It's one of our more expensive matches to run, and the entry fees reflect this. It is quite demanding of a shooter's mental and physical resources, which deters a number of shooters from starting ten days of shooting by firing seventy-plus shots in a single sitting.
I propose that DCRA not offer an ISSF-style 300m match in 2010, and to basically "retire" it from our shooting programme. We'd only re-introduce it in the future if someone wishes to step forward with a proposal to run the match in some way that would draw enough shooters to make the exercise worthwhile. In its place in the shooting schedule (1st Friday morning) we would hold other kinds of warmup matches at 300m on "D" range, on standard DCRA targets, without a shelter tent being set up.
There are some complications with retiring our 300m ISSF-style shooting. One big one is that Sierra has generously sponsored the match (its official name has been the "Sierra Canadian 300m National ISSF Championship") with a prize list of several thousand bullets, and has also sponsored similar provincial-level matches to go along with it (with many more thousands of bullets for prizes). The provincial "Sierra 300m Championships" matches have been very popular, and I suggest that they definitely *not* be cancelled.
I suggest that Sierra's sponsorship for the Canadian Championships be moved to some other significant match that we fire. One possibility would be to assign the Sierra sponsorship and also the bullet prizes to our "Short Range Agg" (all 300m firing during our Grand Agg). Another would be to assign it to our Long Range Challenge Match. Yet another would be to assign it to the (proposed) coached Warmups (see elsewhere for details) in some manner.
I'm interested in hearing feedback on all of the following:
-- My initial thoughts are that we should move the Sierra sponsorships and prizes to the Long Range Challenge, and/or to our coached Warmups. I will contact Sierra and see if they are interested in continuing their sponsorship, and what their preferences might be. If they choose the LR Challenge, it ought to be renamed to be something like the "Sierra Canadian Long Range Challenge (or Championships, etc)". Or if they'd like to support coached shooting development and training perhaps they would rather sponsor the all-new "Sierra Canadian Coached Fullbore Shooting Clinc"?
-- Prizes could be allocated to the winner (or the top two or three places) of each class with sufficient entries (TR-Master, TR-Expert, TR-Sharpshooter/Greenshot, F-Open, F-TR).
-- I will further suggest that we eliminate the cash prizes from the Long Range Challenge - at present, $25 of the LRC's $120 entry fees go toward funding a cash prize pool. It is my thought that it would be better to have fees at $95 and have no cash prizes, but lots of bullet prizes. I'd really appreciate hearing some of your thoughts on this though...
(edited 3-Nov-2009)
As things stand, it looks to me as if the ISSF match is "broken". I think it's a good match, I love the challenge of shooting on such a demanding target, it's nice to shoot something with a common link to our SFC brethren, in fact I think it's a good idea all-around. But the "customers" are telling us that they aren't interested, and year after year they have stayed away in droves from this nice match. While 2009's attendance was probably unusually low because it was a two-day event that was used to select a Canadian team to the 300m CSFC match in India, the event's attendance hasn't been any more than about 20 shooters for the past number of years.
There are many good reasons for a shooter at the Canadian Championships to *not* shoot the ISSF match. It's one of our more expensive matches to run, and the entry fees reflect this. It is quite demanding of a shooter's mental and physical resources, which deters a number of shooters from starting ten days of shooting by firing seventy-plus shots in a single sitting.
I propose that DCRA not offer an ISSF-style 300m match in 2010, and to basically "retire" it from our shooting programme. We'd only re-introduce it in the future if someone wishes to step forward with a proposal to run the match in some way that would draw enough shooters to make the exercise worthwhile. In its place in the shooting schedule (1st Friday morning) we would hold other kinds of warmup matches at 300m on "D" range, on standard DCRA targets, without a shelter tent being set up.
There are some complications with retiring our 300m ISSF-style shooting. One big one is that Sierra has generously sponsored the match (its official name has been the "Sierra Canadian 300m National ISSF Championship") with a prize list of several thousand bullets, and has also sponsored similar provincial-level matches to go along with it (with many more thousands of bullets for prizes). The provincial "Sierra 300m Championships" matches have been very popular, and I suggest that they definitely *not* be cancelled.
I suggest that Sierra's sponsorship for the Canadian Championships be moved to some other significant match that we fire. One possibility would be to assign the Sierra sponsorship and also the bullet prizes to our "Short Range Agg" (all 300m firing during our Grand Agg). Another would be to assign it to our Long Range Challenge Match. Yet another would be to assign it to the (proposed) coached Warmups (see elsewhere for details) in some manner.
I'm interested in hearing feedback on all of the following:
-- My initial thoughts are that we should move the Sierra sponsorships and prizes to the Long Range Challenge, and/or to our coached Warmups. I will contact Sierra and see if they are interested in continuing their sponsorship, and what their preferences might be. If they choose the LR Challenge, it ought to be renamed to be something like the "Sierra Canadian Long Range Challenge (or Championships, etc)". Or if they'd like to support coached shooting development and training perhaps they would rather sponsor the all-new "Sierra Canadian Coached Fullbore Shooting Clinc"?
-- Prizes could be allocated to the winner (or the top two or three places) of each class with sufficient entries (TR-Master, TR-Expert, TR-Sharpshooter/Greenshot, F-Open, F-TR).
-- I will further suggest that we eliminate the cash prizes from the Long Range Challenge - at present, $25 of the LRC's $120 entry fees go toward funding a cash prize pool. It is my thought that it would be better to have fees at $95 and have no cash prizes, but lots of bullet prizes. I'd really appreciate hearing some of your thoughts on this though...
Sunday, August 9, 2009
2009 DCRA Rule Book now available
The 2009 Rules are now available. The DCRA Office will have printed copies for sale ($10) for the Canadian Championships, or you may freely access them online here (185 page, 1.6M .pdf file).
The 2009 rules are adopted from ICFRA TR and F-Class rules, with our previous DCRA rulebook covering items omitted from the ICFRA rules (for example, relay timings, team eligibility criteria, shooter classification system, etc. You will notice that the rule book has three sections.
Section 1 applies to TR. In the few places where we have amended the ICFRA rules for our use (mainly Message 6, targets, and bolt-out rule), the changes are clearly indicated with changebars and strikeouts. It should be quite clear what our rules are, and what the ICFRA rules are (e.g. which will apply to the 2011 WLRC).
Section 2 applies to F-Class; it's our amended version of the ICFRA F-Class rules.
And finally, Section 3 is our "old" DCRA rulebook.
The 2009 rules are adopted from ICFRA TR and F-Class rules, with our previous DCRA rulebook covering items omitted from the ICFRA rules (for example, relay timings, team eligibility criteria, shooter classification system, etc. You will notice that the rule book has three sections.
Section 1 applies to TR. In the few places where we have amended the ICFRA rules for our use (mainly Message 6, targets, and bolt-out rule), the changes are clearly indicated with changebars and strikeouts. It should be quite clear what our rules are, and what the ICFRA rules are (e.g. which will apply to the 2011 WLRC).
Section 2 applies to F-Class; it's our amended version of the ICFRA F-Class rules.
And finally, Section 3 is our "old" DCRA rulebook.
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Shorter/Faster/Better/Cheaper....?
That the Canadian Championships "cost too much", and that they are also "too long", is a completely fair point, and was made a number of times in the survey conducted by the DCRA last fall. I make those points to myself every year, and I wish it were shorter and cheaper. Having said that, I enjoy the whole nine days every year, and they finish far too quickly. But it really seems to be an enormous luxury of time and money (in some ways this is a bug, in some ways it is a feature)
We're not going to change the 2009 Canadian Championships, but perhaps in future years we could do things differently?
In this post, I'll try to lay out the considerations involved, and open up the discussion of what we might be able to do better. Please write your thoughts/questions/ideas in the "Comments" section (or you can communicate them privately to me at dmc@danielchisholm.com).
The reason we haven't made the matches shorter and/or cheaper yet, is that we haven't figured out how to do it. But if anyone has the desire to talk about ways that we could make the matches shorter and/or cheaper, we should go ahead and do that. A fair warning though, once you get started at it, it ends up being more difficult than you might think at first.
If you're up to it, we can have a go at trying to figure it out. This will initially take some effort to get to first understand the problem and its constraints, and only then might we be able to make any real progress on it.
By my reckoning, here are some of the factors that should be taken into account while trying to figure out a better format for the matches:
- the number of ordinary work days that need to be taken off
- the total number of days of shooting while in Ottawa
- travel day(s) to and from Ottawa
- how many days for the Grand Agg, and on which days
- Gov. General's match
- when and where do the team matches fit in amongst the Grand/Gov's time period
- the warmup, and "extra" matches (e.g. ISSF) that we have at the beginning
- how our matches satisfy and fit with the cadets shooting needs
- some "near" shooters (e.g. Ontario) who don't attend, suggest that a 3-4 match might be more attendable
- some "far" shooters (Prairies, BC) who do attend, say that if the matches were made shorter, they would not attend, because it would make the very large costs of getting to and from Ottawa no longer worthwhile
- some "far" shooters say that they can't attend the matches as they are because they are too long
We're not going to change the 2009 Canadian Championships, but perhaps in future years we could do things differently?
In this post, I'll try to lay out the considerations involved, and open up the discussion of what we might be able to do better. Please write your thoughts/questions/ideas in the "Comments" section (or you can communicate them privately to me at dmc@danielchisholm.com).
The reason we haven't made the matches shorter and/or cheaper yet, is that we haven't figured out how to do it. But if anyone has the desire to talk about ways that we could make the matches shorter and/or cheaper, we should go ahead and do that. A fair warning though, once you get started at it, it ends up being more difficult than you might think at first.
If you're up to it, we can have a go at trying to figure it out. This will initially take some effort to get to first understand the problem and its constraints, and only then might we be able to make any real progress on it.
By my reckoning, here are some of the factors that should be taken into account while trying to figure out a better format for the matches:
- the number of ordinary work days that need to be taken off
- the total number of days of shooting while in Ottawa
- travel day(s) to and from Ottawa
- how many days for the Grand Agg, and on which days
- Gov. General's match
- when and where do the team matches fit in amongst the Grand/Gov's time period
- the warmup, and "extra" matches (e.g. ISSF) that we have at the beginning
- how our matches satisfy and fit with the cadets shooting needs
- some "near" shooters (e.g. Ontario) who don't attend, suggest that a 3-4 match might be more attendable
- some "far" shooters (Prairies, BC) who do attend, say that if the matches were made shorter, they would not attend, because it would make the very large costs of getting to and from Ottawa no longer worthwhile
- some "far" shooters say that they can't attend the matches as they are because they are too long
Wednesday, April 1, 2009
Now available: 2009 Cdn Championships Entry Forms, etc
(originally published 25-Mar; for now, I'm pinning this to the top - DC)
Hi all, the Canadian Marksman has just gone to press, and your copy should be arriving in the mail in about a week or so.
Here's a sneak peek of three things that you'll find in it (all are .pdf files)
Hi all, the Canadian Marksman has just gone to press, and your copy should be arriving in the mail in about a week or so.
Here's a sneak peek of three things that you'll find in it (all are .pdf files)
Monday, March 30, 2009
New Shooter to 2009 Canadian Championships
I received an email from Keith Skjerdal, an experienced F-Class shooter from Saskatchewan and a first-time entrant to the Canadian Championships, with a bunch of great questions. With his permission, I am posting it here, with my reply to it; hopefully this might be useful to other first-time participants at our matches.
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We have nine very full days of shooting and an extremely comprehensive (one might say dizzying) programme, but believe it or not there really is a method underlying the apparent madness.
In last years CFRC I see the Long Range Challenge was shot 8 times at 900m and it ran the same days as the ISSF.
Question: Can I shoot both the ISSF and the Long Range Challenge this year or is it one or the other?
A competitor fires the Long Range Challenge four times at 900m (there are two relays, so that might be where you get "8" from). You will shoot twice on Friday afternoon, twice on Saturday afternoon.
The ISSF match consists of 60 shots on Friday morning, plus another 60 shots on Saturday morning, for a total of 120 shots on score. Each morning there are two relays scheduled, you would be assigned to one of them, in which you have 105 minutes to fire an unlimited number of sighters, and then 60 shots for score. If you want to shoot only 60 shots on Friday, or only 60 shots on Saturday, there is an option for that on the entry form.
So to answer your questions, yes, you can enter both the ISSF(fired Fri. AM and Sat. AM) and the Long Range Challenge (fired Fri. PM and Sat. PM). As well as these, you can also enter the Army and Navy Veterans Match (2ss15 900m Sat. PM).
(Connaught has good challenging wind conditions. It's a "fair" range, but it can be quite hard at times. The Long Range Challenge is a really great way to get some good exposure to this, particularly before the Grand Agg. Highly recommended!)
(Another FYI: we have *lots* of warmup matches on Friday and Saturday. Shoot as many as you care to, but keep in mind that if you try to shoot them all, that that is a *lot* of shooting. This is especially hard for TR shooters, but even F-Class shooters might want to at least think about pacing themselves)
Another thing to know is that on Friday morning there are practice opportunities available at 800m and 900m. For $3 you can buy a ticket that allows you to fire ten practice shots. It's a great way to get sighted in and set up, and get a few non-competition shots downrange, as you start your time at Connaught. Conditions in the morning are generally pretty easy, so you can get good zeroes and verify how well you and your rifle are shooting. You can enjoy the full fury during the afternoon's matches ;-)
Question: Are the Gooderham, Army & Navy, Tilton and Ottawa Reg. in the ??th agg of the Century? They were in 2008.
Yes.
The "Champlain Aggregate" consists of the warmup matches (Ottawa Regiment, Gooderham, Army and Navy Veterans and Tilton).
The "Aggregate for the 21st Century" consists of nearly everything - the Champlain, plus the Grand Aggregate, plus the Governor General's Final or F-Class Final.
Perhaps a little this might help you understand the structure of the shooting at the Canadian Championships:
There are three ranges at Connaught that we use. We usually use two of them at any one time, but for the first couple of days we have all three in use at the same time.
"A" Range is on the far left, and has 40 firing points. We usually fire 500y or 600y on it, though we sometimes also fire 300y there.
"C" Range is in the centre, and has 76 firing points. We usually fire 800m or 900m there (and occasionally 700m too).
"D" range is on the right, and has 34(?) firing points. We fire 300m there.
Here is how the 9 days are broken down:
1st Friday morning through Sunday morning - warmup matches
Sunday afternoon through Thursday morning - Grand Agg. Two distances are fired each morning (08:00-about noon), and two distances are fired each afternoon (~13:00 - ~17:30). You are given individualized, scrambled squadding tickets. You will always have at least 60 minutes from the between the end of firing at one distance and the start of firing at the next distance (and almost always, a fair bit more than this).
On Thursday afternoon the provincial TR team matches are fired, at 600y (The Provincial) and 900m (London Merchants). For people not involved in those matches, there is also the Outlander (for foreign visiting teams), the Rideau (4 man teams 2ss10 @ 900m), or the Street (Palma course 2ss15 at 700m, 800m, 900m).
Something to keep in mind w.r.t. the team matches, especially for TR shooters: if you are not chosen for your Provincial or National team, you should form a 4-man team of your own, or shoot one of the individual matches happening at that time, or you should volunteer to help with your Provincial or National team. Teams can always use register-keepers, and if you volunteer to help you will likely be asked to do this. I can highly recommend doing register-keeping duty as a really good way to learn about team shooting; it's much more educational than actually shooting on that team, since the shooters really don't get a chance to experience the whole match. A register keeper gets to watch (and listen!) to the whole thing; I have learnt more about wind reading and match tactics in a single hour while keeping score for a really good team, than in months of my own competitive shooting.
On Friday morning, the final distance of the Grand Aggregate is fired, which is the Gatineau 2ss15 at 900m. Squadding in the Gatineau is "seeded", according to standing in the Grand to that point, so you'll see the all the top TR shooters firing on one relay, all the mid-level TR shooters on another relay, all the F-Class shooters on another relay, etc.
Friday afternoon is the Commonwealth Match, which is a big international long range TR match (12 shooters, 2ss10 at 800m and 900m). There are also similar team matches fired on the same range at the same time - the Under-25 (TR), the Lum Trophy (4-man F-Class team), the Algonquin (4-man TR team). Also on Friday afternoon is the Hayhurst, which is 2ss10 at 300y, 500y, 600y. You are only able to fired one of these matches.
2nd Saturday is the final day, and it is pretty busy.
2nd Saturday morning is the Canada Match, which is the other big international TR match, fired at short and mid range (2ss10 at 300y, 500y, 600y). On the same range and with the same course of fire are also the Under-25 Short Range TR Team match, Seniors TR Team match, Lansdowne (4-man team, TR or F). Also fired on Saturday morning, on another range, is the Perry (Palma course 2ss15 at 700m, 800m, 900m). You are only able to fire one of these matches.
The "big glory" match for TR shooters is the Gov. Gen's prize, which is fired in the afternoon (2ss15 at 800m and 900m). Only the top 50 TR shooters get to fire this. This is the last match fired at the Canadian Championships, and the winner of this is carried off the range in a chair and with a marching band.
Here's a wrinkle. The selection of the Canadian TR team to Bisley uses an aggregate called "Canadian Target Rifle Championship (Bisley Aggregate)", which consists of the Grand Agg plus the Gov. Gen Final. Since not all Canadian TR shooters will be firing the GG Final, there is an equivalent course of fire match (called the "TR Bisley Qualifier"), which is open to all Canadians, which they fire in order to get a score that will be used to establish their place in the "Bisley Agg". Non-Canadians are not eligible for this agg, but there are spaces available for them and they are welcome to fire it ("Bisley Qual") as well, though their scores do not count for anything.
So here's the busy-ish part of 2nd Saturday. Over the noon-ish period, the "F Class Final" is fired (which is the F-Class equivalent of TR's Gov. Gen. prize). The F-Class Final is open to the top ten F-Class shooters, and is 2ss15 at 800m and 900m. Also at the same time on the same range the F-Class "Bisley Qualifier is fired, and also one relay of TR Bisley Qualifier.
So for F-Class shooters, and for some TR shooters, all their shooting is finished around 1pm on Saturday.
For the past several years, the F-Class shooters have taken care of running the scoreboard for the Gov. Gen prize, and have done quite a good job of it.
Saturday afternoon a 2pm-ish the Gov. Gen Final match is fired (and also the second relay of the TR Bisley Qualifier). Shooting is finished about 4:30pm.
People then disperse to shower, and perhaps have a quick snack, and then return for the prize ceremony, which is held Saturday evening. We have a really impressive array of trophies, which are well displayed.
Now on to your questions on the specific matches:
Question: What is the cost of the "walk up" matches and team shoots not listed in the form? (i.e., CANLOAN, Tilton, Coaches Team Match, Street, Hayhurst, Perry, Rideau and Lum Team)
The Tilton is included as part of your Grand Aggregate entry fee. If you want, you may delete it, for a $25 credit (but I would recommend that you shoot the Tilton. It is the only shooting happening Sunday morning, and it is exactly like the Grand Agg).
The Coaches Match is $60 per F-Class team of two shooters and one non-shooting coach. It is relatively expensive because $40 of this goes into the prize pool.
The CANLOAN is a Cadet match only; we are not eligible to shoot it. Our shooting starts Friday morning at 08:00.
The Perry (Thursday afternoon) and Street (2nd Saturday morning) are Palma (2ss15 at 700m, 800m, 900m) course matches. They are quite cheap, $20 if I recall correctly.
Rideau is four shooter team match, 2ss10 at 900m, Thursday afternoon. I will have to check to see if you can shoot this *and* the Perry, or if you can shoot only one of them. If you are able to shoot both, it will be pretty rushed (as soon as you finish the 900m of the Perry you will have to immediately fire the Rideau; it's doable, since it is on the same range, but it would be rushed).
The Lum is an F-Class team match of four shooters plus one coach (shooting or non), 2ss10 at 800m and 900m, 2nd Friday afternoon.
The Hayhurst is an individual match 2ss10 at 300y, 500y, 600y on 2nd Friday afternoon. It is fired at the same time as the Lum, so you can choose one or the other (as an F-Class shooter, I would suggest you form an F-Class team and shoot the Lum).
I want to shoot as much as I can since it is a wee bit of a drive (1800+ miles one way) but I do not want to include myself in something if it excludes me from the big aggs, like the Agg for the Century or the Cdn FClass Open.
The only matches that you have to (or can) enter now are the ones listed on the entry forms. The other ones (team matches, and the other post-Wednesday matches) are entered once the Grand is under way. Check the notice board there, etc.
Here is what I plan on shooting in Aug...
CANLOAN 7@5&6 Thur am (as noted above, this is a Cadet-only match)
ISSF Day 1 Fri am
Long Range P1 15*900mx2 Fri pm
*Ottawa 15@8m Fri Eve
*Gooderham 15@5+10@9m Sat am
ISSF Day 2 Sat am
Long Range P2 15*900mx2 Sat pm
*Army&Navy Vets 15@9m Sat pm
TILTON 10@3m&6 Sun am
MacD 10@3m&5 Sun pm
Beckett 10@3m Mon am
Brick 10@5 Mon am
Beckett 10@8m Mon pm
Brick 10@6 Mon pm
Leston 7@3m&5 Tues am
Coaches Team Match Tues pm
Alex of Tunis 10@9m Tues pm
Leston 7@6 Tues pm
Pres 10@3m&5 Wed am
Gibson 10@8m Wed pm
Pres 10@6 Wed pm
Gibson 10@3m&6 Thur am
STREET 15@7,8,9M Thur pm (choose Street *OR* Rideau)
Rideau Thur pm
Gatineau 15@9m Fri am
Lum Trophy team Fri pm (choose Lum *OR* Hayhurst; I recommend Lum)
HAYHURST 10@3,5,6 Fri pm
PERRY 15@7,8,9m Sat am
FC Final 15@8,9m Sat pm
I'm really looking forward to this experience!!
See ya there.
Keith Skjerdal
Keith, I'm really looking forward to meeting you there. I am sure you will have a wonderful time shooting! Will you be shooting F/Open, F/Restricted, or F/Farquharson?
Cheers,
- Daniel
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We have nine very full days of shooting and an extremely comprehensive (one might say dizzying) programme, but believe it or not there really is a method underlying the apparent madness.
In last years CFRC I see the Long Range Challenge was shot 8 times at 900m and it ran the same days as the ISSF.
Question: Can I shoot both the ISSF and the Long Range Challenge this year or is it one or the other?
A competitor fires the Long Range Challenge four times at 900m (there are two relays, so that might be where you get "8" from). You will shoot twice on Friday afternoon, twice on Saturday afternoon.
The ISSF match consists of 60 shots on Friday morning, plus another 60 shots on Saturday morning, for a total of 120 shots on score. Each morning there are two relays scheduled, you would be assigned to one of them, in which you have 105 minutes to fire an unlimited number of sighters, and then 60 shots for score. If you want to shoot only 60 shots on Friday, or only 60 shots on Saturday, there is an option for that on the entry form.
So to answer your questions, yes, you can enter both the ISSF(fired Fri. AM and Sat. AM) and the Long Range Challenge (fired Fri. PM and Sat. PM). As well as these, you can also enter the Army and Navy Veterans Match (2ss15 900m Sat. PM).
(Connaught has good challenging wind conditions. It's a "fair" range, but it can be quite hard at times. The Long Range Challenge is a really great way to get some good exposure to this, particularly before the Grand Agg. Highly recommended!)
(Another FYI: we have *lots* of warmup matches on Friday and Saturday. Shoot as many as you care to, but keep in mind that if you try to shoot them all, that that is a *lot* of shooting. This is especially hard for TR shooters, but even F-Class shooters might want to at least think about pacing themselves)
Another thing to know is that on Friday morning there are practice opportunities available at 800m and 900m. For $3 you can buy a ticket that allows you to fire ten practice shots. It's a great way to get sighted in and set up, and get a few non-competition shots downrange, as you start your time at Connaught. Conditions in the morning are generally pretty easy, so you can get good zeroes and verify how well you and your rifle are shooting. You can enjoy the full fury during the afternoon's matches ;-)
Question: Are the Gooderham, Army & Navy, Tilton and Ottawa Reg. in the ??th agg of the Century? They were in 2008.
Yes.
The "Champlain Aggregate" consists of the warmup matches (Ottawa Regiment, Gooderham, Army and Navy Veterans and Tilton).
The "Aggregate for the 21st Century" consists of nearly everything - the Champlain, plus the Grand Aggregate, plus the Governor General's Final or F-Class Final.
Perhaps a little this might help you understand the structure of the shooting at the Canadian Championships:
There are three ranges at Connaught that we use. We usually use two of them at any one time, but for the first couple of days we have all three in use at the same time.
"A" Range is on the far left, and has 40 firing points. We usually fire 500y or 600y on it, though we sometimes also fire 300y there.
"C" Range is in the centre, and has 76 firing points. We usually fire 800m or 900m there (and occasionally 700m too).
"D" range is on the right, and has 34(?) firing points. We fire 300m there.
Here is how the 9 days are broken down:
1st Friday morning through Sunday morning - warmup matches
Sunday afternoon through Thursday morning - Grand Agg. Two distances are fired each morning (08:00-about noon), and two distances are fired each afternoon (~13:00 - ~17:30). You are given individualized, scrambled squadding tickets. You will always have at least 60 minutes from the between the end of firing at one distance and the start of firing at the next distance (and almost always, a fair bit more than this).
On Thursday afternoon the provincial TR team matches are fired, at 600y (The Provincial) and 900m (London Merchants). For people not involved in those matches, there is also the Outlander (for foreign visiting teams), the Rideau (4 man teams 2ss10 @ 900m), or the Street (Palma course 2ss15 at 700m, 800m, 900m).
Something to keep in mind w.r.t. the team matches, especially for TR shooters: if you are not chosen for your Provincial or National team, you should form a 4-man team of your own, or shoot one of the individual matches happening at that time, or you should volunteer to help with your Provincial or National team. Teams can always use register-keepers, and if you volunteer to help you will likely be asked to do this. I can highly recommend doing register-keeping duty as a really good way to learn about team shooting; it's much more educational than actually shooting on that team, since the shooters really don't get a chance to experience the whole match. A register keeper gets to watch (and listen!) to the whole thing; I have learnt more about wind reading and match tactics in a single hour while keeping score for a really good team, than in months of my own competitive shooting.
On Friday morning, the final distance of the Grand Aggregate is fired, which is the Gatineau 2ss15 at 900m. Squadding in the Gatineau is "seeded", according to standing in the Grand to that point, so you'll see the all the top TR shooters firing on one relay, all the mid-level TR shooters on another relay, all the F-Class shooters on another relay, etc.
Friday afternoon is the Commonwealth Match, which is a big international long range TR match (12 shooters, 2ss10 at 800m and 900m). There are also similar team matches fired on the same range at the same time - the Under-25 (TR), the Lum Trophy (4-man F-Class team), the Algonquin (4-man TR team). Also on Friday afternoon is the Hayhurst, which is 2ss10 at 300y, 500y, 600y. You are only able to fired one of these matches.
2nd Saturday is the final day, and it is pretty busy.
2nd Saturday morning is the Canada Match, which is the other big international TR match, fired at short and mid range (2ss10 at 300y, 500y, 600y). On the same range and with the same course of fire are also the Under-25 Short Range TR Team match, Seniors TR Team match, Lansdowne (4-man team, TR or F). Also fired on Saturday morning, on another range, is the Perry (Palma course 2ss15 at 700m, 800m, 900m). You are only able to fire one of these matches.
The "big glory" match for TR shooters is the Gov. Gen's prize, which is fired in the afternoon (2ss15 at 800m and 900m). Only the top 50 TR shooters get to fire this. This is the last match fired at the Canadian Championships, and the winner of this is carried off the range in a chair and with a marching band.
Here's a wrinkle. The selection of the Canadian TR team to Bisley uses an aggregate called "Canadian Target Rifle Championship (Bisley Aggregate)", which consists of the Grand Agg plus the Gov. Gen Final. Since not all Canadian TR shooters will be firing the GG Final, there is an equivalent course of fire match (called the "TR Bisley Qualifier"), which is open to all Canadians, which they fire in order to get a score that will be used to establish their place in the "Bisley Agg". Non-Canadians are not eligible for this agg, but there are spaces available for them and they are welcome to fire it ("Bisley Qual") as well, though their scores do not count for anything.
So here's the busy-ish part of 2nd Saturday. Over the noon-ish period, the "F Class Final" is fired (which is the F-Class equivalent of TR's Gov. Gen. prize). The F-Class Final is open to the top ten F-Class shooters, and is 2ss15 at 800m and 900m. Also at the same time on the same range the F-Class "Bisley Qualifier is fired, and also one relay of TR Bisley Qualifier.
So for F-Class shooters, and for some TR shooters, all their shooting is finished around 1pm on Saturday.
For the past several years, the F-Class shooters have taken care of running the scoreboard for the Gov. Gen prize, and have done quite a good job of it.
Saturday afternoon a 2pm-ish the Gov. Gen Final match is fired (and also the second relay of the TR Bisley Qualifier). Shooting is finished about 4:30pm.
People then disperse to shower, and perhaps have a quick snack, and then return for the prize ceremony, which is held Saturday evening. We have a really impressive array of trophies, which are well displayed.
Now on to your questions on the specific matches:
Question: What is the cost of the "walk up" matches and team shoots not listed in the form? (i.e., CANLOAN, Tilton, Coaches Team Match, Street, Hayhurst, Perry, Rideau and Lum Team)
The Tilton is included as part of your Grand Aggregate entry fee. If you want, you may delete it, for a $25 credit (but I would recommend that you shoot the Tilton. It is the only shooting happening Sunday morning, and it is exactly like the Grand Agg).
The Coaches Match is $60 per F-Class team of two shooters and one non-shooting coach. It is relatively expensive because $40 of this goes into the prize pool.
The CANLOAN is a Cadet match only; we are not eligible to shoot it. Our shooting starts Friday morning at 08:00.
The Perry (Thursday afternoon) and Street (2nd Saturday morning) are Palma (2ss15 at 700m, 800m, 900m) course matches. They are quite cheap, $20 if I recall correctly.
Rideau is four shooter team match, 2ss10 at 900m, Thursday afternoon. I will have to check to see if you can shoot this *and* the Perry, or if you can shoot only one of them. If you are able to shoot both, it will be pretty rushed (as soon as you finish the 900m of the Perry you will have to immediately fire the Rideau; it's doable, since it is on the same range, but it would be rushed).
The Lum is an F-Class team match of four shooters plus one coach (shooting or non), 2ss10 at 800m and 900m, 2nd Friday afternoon.
The Hayhurst is an individual match 2ss10 at 300y, 500y, 600y on 2nd Friday afternoon. It is fired at the same time as the Lum, so you can choose one or the other (as an F-Class shooter, I would suggest you form an F-Class team and shoot the Lum).
I want to shoot as much as I can since it is a wee bit of a drive (1800+ miles one way) but I do not want to include myself in something if it excludes me from the big aggs, like the Agg for the Century or the Cdn FClass Open.
The only matches that you have to (or can) enter now are the ones listed on the entry forms. The other ones (team matches, and the other post-Wednesday matches) are entered once the Grand is under way. Check the notice board there, etc.
Here is what I plan on shooting in Aug...
CANLOAN 7@5&6 Thur am (as noted above, this is a Cadet-only match)
ISSF Day 1 Fri am
Long Range P1 15*900mx2 Fri pm
*Ottawa 15@8m Fri Eve
*Gooderham 15@5+10@9m Sat am
ISSF Day 2 Sat am
Long Range P2 15*900mx2 Sat pm
*Army&Navy Vets 15@9m Sat pm
TILTON 10@3m&6 Sun am
MacD 10@3m&5 Sun pm
Beckett 10@3m Mon am
Brick 10@5 Mon am
Beckett 10@8m Mon pm
Brick 10@6 Mon pm
Leston 7@3m&5 Tues am
Coaches Team Match Tues pm
Alex of Tunis 10@9m Tues pm
Leston 7@6 Tues pm
Pres 10@3m&5 Wed am
Gibson 10@8m Wed pm
Pres 10@6 Wed pm
Gibson 10@3m&6 Thur am
STREET 15@7,8,9M Thur pm (choose Street *OR* Rideau)
Rideau Thur pm
Gatineau 15@9m Fri am
Lum Trophy team Fri pm (choose Lum *OR* Hayhurst; I recommend Lum)
HAYHURST 10@3,5,6 Fri pm
PERRY 15@7,8,9m Sat am
FC Final 15@8,9m Sat pm
I'm really looking forward to this experience!!
See ya there.
Keith Skjerdal
Keith, I'm really looking forward to meeting you there. I am sure you will have a wonderful time shooting! Will you be shooting F/Open, F/Restricted, or F/Farquharson?
Cheers,
- Daniel
Wednesday, February 18, 2009
Commonwealth Games Fullbore Events
(by Jim Thompson)
The next Commonwealth Games will be held at New Delhi, India in October 2010. The next Commonwealth Shooting Federation (CSF) Championships will be held in India probably in February 2010. Final arrangements for the Fullbore Events have not yet been announced by the Indian Games Authorities.
Stan wrote:
The next Commonwealth Games will be held at New Delhi, India in October 2010. The next Commonwealth Shooting Federation (CSF) Championships will be held in India probably in February 2010. Final arrangements for the Fullbore Events have not yet been announced by the Indian Games Authorities.
Following the designated aggregate scores made in 2007 and 2008, and the final selection trial in 2008, the top four shooters were named as the training squad for the CSFC and Commonwealth Games. Mr. Sandy Peden was appointed as manager/coach by the DCRA Executive Committee. He, along with two other advisors, will coordinate the training and selection procedures for 2009. Scores at the 2009 Canadian Championships, and in a further one day trial on the day following, will form part of the process. It is hoped that three shooters will attend the CSFC in February 2010, with two being chosen subsequently to represent Canada in the Commonwealth Games Fullbore Events in October 2010.
Commonwealth Shooting Federation 300m ISSF Event
It is possible, but it is not confirmed at the time of writing, that there will be a prone 60-shot 300 metre ISSF event at the Commonwealth Shooting Federation Championships in India in February 2010. This may be for one or two shooters. The DCRA and SFC have agreed that selection for this event will be based on the 2009 DCRA Sierra 300 metre Canadian Championship, which will be expanded to a two-day event (see Programme and Schedule). Please consult the DCRA Office and DCRA web site for further details, which will be posted as soon as they become available.
EDIT 14-APR: Roger asked in the comments section below whether 300m ISSF might become an event in the Commonwealth Games. I didn't know, so so I asked Jim Thompson and Stan Frost and got the following.
Stan wrote:
Dan,
There may be some confusion between the Commonwealth Games and the Commonwealth Shooting Federation Championships. The Games have a fixed list of shooting events, which cannot be changed this close to the Games and which does NOT include 300 m ISSF for 2010. 300m ISSF may be offered as an alternative to TR Queen's Prize Course but this would be done during the bidding process for the Games. There is a movement afoot to get this alternative approach changed for the next Games in 2014, allowing both to be offered.
The Commonwealth Shooting Federation Championships, which are being shot in India on the Games range but 7 months before the Games, do include 300 m ISSF.
TR was first included in the Commonwealth Games in 1966 in Jamaica and has been included since. To my knowledge 300m ISSF has never been included in the Games. The CSFC are a recent innovation. I know they were first fired in 1997 in Malaysia and I think they may have been fired once before that. (I think the original intent was to have the CSFC every two years, but they have been unable to find host countries at this frequency.) They have tended to use the same courses of fire as the Games but sometimes with more events being shot. I am pretty sure that 300 m ISSF was not included at Bisley in 2001 and I don't think it was included in Oz in 2005. Jim may offer some enlightenment here.
Jim wrote:
Stan has got it right, as usual!
The only thing I can add is that, as far as I know, Glasgow in 2014 will have TR Queen's prize in the Games, but TR and 300m in the CSFC. I don't think, at this stage, that they can add 300m to the Games programme.
The CSF Fullbore Committee, of which I'm a member, has been trying to stress that TR-QP must always be part of the Games, but that 300m might be added. 300m is not an alternative to TR-QP.
Sunday, February 15, 2009
2009 Canadian Championships 14-22 August
The overall programme will be pretty much the same as in previous years. Dates for this year's matches are 14-22 August 2009.
Starting in 2009, for a three year trial period, we will be using the ICFRA rules for TR and F Class. The ICFRA rules will be "backstopped" by our DCRA rulebook - if something isn't handled by the ICFRA rules (for example, team eligibility requirements), the DCRA rulebook will apply. Also, we have made two small amendments to the ICFRA rules for our use ("Message 6", and "bolts out").
For both TR and F/F Class, we have eliminated the .223 Rem 81 grain bullet weight limit. The .308 Win 156 grain bullet weight limit still applies.
There is now no TR class rifle weight limit (formerly it was 6.5kg). Also, the TR trigger weight limit is now 0.5kg (formerly 1.5kg).
The shooting programme will be basically the same as in previous years. Changes:
Starting in 2009, for a three year trial period, we will be using the ICFRA rules for TR and F Class. The ICFRA rules will be "backstopped" by our DCRA rulebook - if something isn't handled by the ICFRA rules (for example, team eligibility requirements), the DCRA rulebook will apply. Also, we have made two small amendments to the ICFRA rules for our use ("Message 6", and "bolts out").
For both TR and F/F Class, we have eliminated the .223 Rem 81 grain bullet weight limit. The .308 Win 156 grain bullet weight limit still applies.
There is now no TR class rifle weight limit (formerly it was 6.5kg). Also, the TR trigger weight limit is now 0.5kg (formerly 1.5kg).
The shooting programme will be basically the same as in previous years. Changes:
- This year the Sierra Canadian 300m ISSF match will be two days and 120 shots long, and it will form part of the selection process for the Canadian 300m ISSF team to the Commonwealth Shooting Federation Championships in February 2010.
- There will be a final selection trial on Sunday 23 August to determine the final composition of our Commonweatlth Games team.
- The Early Short Course and the Later Short Course matches have been cancelled. It is still possible to enter matches individually on a space-available basis; somebody not shooting the Grand Agg can put together for themselves quite a big shooting schedule, hundreds of shots if they wish, for Fri-Sun 14-16 Augor Thu-Sat 20-22 Aug.
Friday, February 13, 2009
2009 Canadian Championships - F Class
There are a number of changes for F-Class this year.
Firstly, F Class shooters will now be squadded separately from TR shooters. We'll still share the same range, but we will no longer get to have and F-Class and a TR shooter firing together on the same target. Personally I will miss this fellowship, and I will also say that this was not an easy change to make, but it is hoped that this will be an overall improvement to F Class shooting at the Canadian Championships matches.
Secondly, F-Class will no longer fire on TR targets using V=6 scoring. We will be using a special (roughly) 1/2-MOA V-bull paster applied to the standard DCRA target. F-Class shooters will be scored on a "5-V" system. The 5-ring for F-class shooter will be the V-ring of the current DCRA target system, i.e. approximately 1 MOA (a bit tighter actually at 300m, and a bit looses at 900m), and the F-Class V-bull will be exactly half that diameter. The F-Class 4-ring will be the 5-ring from the TR target, roughly 2MOA diameter (a bit tighter at 300m, a bit looser at 900m).
Thirdly, we will be recognizing a third variety of F-Class this year, F/Restricted, which is defined in the ICFRA F-Class rules. Briefly, it is .223 Rem or .308 Win, no bullet weight limit, and the front rest may only be a bipod or hand (i.e. pedestal benchrests are not allow). You'll see that this is very similar to F/Farquharson, though not identical - F/Farquharson restricts .308 Win bullet weight to <156 grains (no limit for .223 Rem), and F/Farquharson permits any kind of front rest to be used.
Fourthly, F/Farquharson and F/Restricted will now be fully and equally recognized in all the prize lists. Provided that there are at least three shooters, the first place F/Farquaharson and the first place F/Restrcited shooter will receive the same award (gold medallion, etc) as the first place F/Open shooter.
Firstly, F Class shooters will now be squadded separately from TR shooters. We'll still share the same range, but we will no longer get to have and F-Class and a TR shooter firing together on the same target. Personally I will miss this fellowship, and I will also say that this was not an easy change to make, but it is hoped that this will be an overall improvement to F Class shooting at the Canadian Championships matches.
Secondly, F-Class will no longer fire on TR targets using V=6 scoring. We will be using a special (roughly) 1/2-MOA V-bull paster applied to the standard DCRA target. F-Class shooters will be scored on a "5-V" system. The 5-ring for F-class shooter will be the V-ring of the current DCRA target system, i.e. approximately 1 MOA (a bit tighter actually at 300m, and a bit looses at 900m), and the F-Class V-bull will be exactly half that diameter. The F-Class 4-ring will be the 5-ring from the TR target, roughly 2MOA diameter (a bit tighter at 300m, a bit looser at 900m).
Thirdly, we will be recognizing a third variety of F-Class this year, F/Restricted, which is defined in the ICFRA F-Class rules. Briefly, it is .223 Rem or .308 Win, no bullet weight limit, and the front rest may only be a bipod or hand (i.e. pedestal benchrests are not allow). You'll see that this is very similar to F/Farquharson, though not identical - F/Farquharson restricts .308 Win bullet weight to <156 grains (no limit for .223 Rem), and F/Farquharson permits any kind of front rest to be used.
Fourthly, F/Farquharson and F/Restricted will now be fully and equally recognized in all the prize lists. Provided that there are at least three shooters, the first place F/Farquaharson and the first place F/Restrcited shooter will receive the same award (gold medallion, etc) as the first place F/Open shooter.
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